tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post8266911334514725973..comments2024-03-24T05:22:46.517-04:00Comments on Musings of a Biologist and Dog Lover: Mismark Case Study: DalmatianStephaniehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08840844954903338887noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post-82797567774765159212012-02-10T14:14:45.599-05:002012-02-10T14:14:45.599-05:00Astro is quite an interesting looking Dal! I have ...Astro is quite an interesting looking Dal! I have seen a couple with that much white before. They're the exception and show, in some way, how the ticking/spotting genes work. Dalmations are really white under all of those spots and the spotting/ticking gene sort of causes color to break through the white. That's why the breed is born white except for the odd patch. :)Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08840844954903338887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post-20527048148482226922012-02-04T16:11:25.957-05:002012-02-04T16:11:25.957-05:00this is Astro.. a dal who is sooooo white.. has tw...this is Astro.. a dal who is sooooo white.. has two blue eyes.. and only his upper lids are black.. the lowers are pink http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428277_272796376120576_526993918_n.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post-77741847921740077522011-12-26T00:33:37.143-05:002011-12-26T00:33:37.143-05:00Wow, Pai, I had no clue! Yeah, that's rather m...Wow, Pai, I had no clue! Yeah, that's rather misguided. It amazes me that people didn't make connections to the same colors seen in other breeds. The genes are, for the most part, universal, and if you pay attention it's really obvious that the tricolor is based off of the black and tan of other breeds. I also doubt breeding data supported that assumption, since there should be no correlation between mating liver to black and producing dogs with tan spots. It makes me wonder if modern breeders would deny that the color was ever accepted, let alone preferred. <br /><br />Anon, I very much see your point. However, she does look more Dal to me than, say, pointer. The spots are rather large and clearly defined for a ticked breed. She could be a really oddly marked, off-type Dal. It does happen. Or she could be a mix, possibly very heavy on the Dal. I have seen Dalmatians with <a href="http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/Dalspots.jpg" rel="nofollow">similar</a> <a href="http://retrieverman.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/perry-the-dalmatian.jpg" rel="nofollow">markings</a> and <a href="http://www.fordogtrainers.com/images/large/tracking-harness-Dalmatian-harness_LRG.jpg" rel="nofollow">structure</a>. I personally thought she just looked old and fat, but I don't have a great amount of experience with the breed.Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08840844954903338887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post-47295143589236610682011-12-22T21:00:50.560-05:002011-12-22T21:00:50.560-05:00That second dog doesn't look like a purebred d...That second dog doesn't look like a purebred dal at all, regardless of color. Not the best example imho.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post-51623908935953730672011-12-22T20:24:08.959-05:002011-12-22T20:24:08.959-05:00Here are some excerpts on Tricolor Dals from the l...Here are some excerpts on Tricolor Dals from the late 1800s, showing how it took less than 20 years for attitudes to change about them:<br /><br /><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Pietoro/Dog%20Breed%20Historical%20Pictures/?action=view&current=1879_Dalmatian2.jpg&currenttag=dalmatian" rel="nofollow">1879</a><br /><br /><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Pietoro/Dog%20Breed%20Historical%20Pictures/?action=view&current=1881_DalmatianSpots.gif&currenttag=dalmatian" rel="nofollow">1881</a><br /><br /><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Pietoro/Dog%20Breed%20Historical%20Pictures/?action=view&current=1891_DalmatianSpots.jpg&currenttag=dalmatian" rel="nofollow">1891</a><br /><br /><a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Pietoro/Dog%20Breed%20Historical%20Pictures/?action=view&current=1905Dals2.jpg&currenttag=dalmatian" rel="nofollow">1905</a>Paihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14108169893140762249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7010409378436372090.post-14677919061414033192011-12-22T20:14:10.378-05:002011-12-22T20:14:10.378-05:00It doesn't surprise me that a lot of the stuff...It doesn't surprise me that a lot of the stuff on color in the Dal breed standard is based on genetic ignorance of color inheritance.<br /><br />Originally, Tricolor Dals were highly favored, until some people decided they were a result of 'mixing' between Liver and Black Dals and had them written out of the standard (apparently crossing Liver- and Black-spotted dogs was frowned on back then). A prime example of blood-purity fixation based on ignorance of genetic facts.Paihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14108169893140762249noreply@blogger.com